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Ten Truly Underrated Sci-Fi Movies

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What is it about sci-fi movies that always make us give them the benefit of the doubt?

Are we so shallow that it only takes a few laser pistols, flying cars, and matching jumpsuits to get our creative juices flowing? Are we so in love with the ideas behind the futuristic concepts of sci-fi movies that we're willing to overlook massive flaws in storytelling? (That's the crutch that most Trekkies have been leaning on for years.) Or are sci-fi movies just vastly, vastly underrated by critics and audiences who can't get past the androids and nanobots?

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{"commentId":2615689,"authorDomain":"Andimia"}

Tron fully deserves to be on this list. That has to be one of my favorite SciFi movies from when I was little. I thought I was going to wet my pants when I saw the trailer to Tron 2.0

I would have liked to see the Island, Fifth element, or Ultra Violet in there rather then Aeon Flux.

most of the rest of these I haven't actually seen which makes me sad.

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  • 5 votes
Reply#1 - Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:43 PM EDT
{"commentId":2616786,"authorDomain":"fredegrar"}

I think Fifth Element is underrated too, but then I'm a a bit of a Gary Oldman fan. I grew up on Sleeper (and I'm also reminded of that movie on a daily basis because I drive past a saucer-shaped house that was featured in it), so thought that was an interesting addition to their list.

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#1.1 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:44 AM EDT
{"commentId":2617582,"authorDomain":"adventurebooks"}

Like most of you, some of the films I agreed should be on such a list. Tron for sure. How about 'Robinson Crusoe on Mars' (restored DVD version by Criterion)

I was lucky enough to receive an advance copy from Criterion via Orange Media, and they really did a nice restoration. And so I ran up up a few pictures and did the review for Newsvine. I'm not here to hijack this nice thread, though. If you want to find it, you can search it out easily.

I also agree with Gattaca, which basically takes the use of your DNA to the ultimate level.

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#1.2 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:35 AM EDT
{"commentId":2617596,"authorDomain":"wallacestevens"}
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{"commentId":2618844,"authorDomain":"tigerblade"}
I would have liked to see the Island

I don't think it qualifies as being "under-rated." Being a Michael Bay film, it got a pretty decent reception - though I'd never heard of it until I saw it on DVD at a friend's place. (it was awesome enough that I went and bought it myself the next day.)

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#1.4 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:37 AM EDT
{"commentId":2621726,"authorDomain":"tcervo"}
I think Fifth Element is underrated too

Not sure I'd call Fifth Element underrated. It's a huge fan favorite. Most fans don't just have one copy, they have multiple copies because they keep releasing new @#$! editions! Also, it's played all the time on the various HD channels. I think I've seen it at least 5 different times in the past year.

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#1.5 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:43 PM EDT
{"commentId":2621945,"authorDomain":"mysticchick"}

The Fifth Element is on my short list of best movies ever.

I love the Diva!

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#1.6 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:01 PM EDT
{"commentId":2624324,"authorDomain":"ProgrammerDude"}

I, too, would rank The Fifth Element among my favorite SF!

As an old fan of Heavy Metal, the production design by Moebius was an extra taste treat!

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#1.7 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:04 PM EDT
{"commentId":2627163,"authorDomain":"chasing"}

Oh dear lord, I thought Ultra Violet was unwatchable. And I'll watch just about anything. Aeon Flux wasn't anything special, but it was at least fun, and made a modicum of sense.

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#1.8 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:39 PM EDT
{"commentId":2642422,"authorDomain":"ProgrammerDude"}

UltraViolet was very stylized and comic book-like. Does it help any to know it was directed by Kurt Wimmer, who also directed the acclaimed Equilibrium (and Sphere, which might belong on our own "Underrated SF Films" list)?

I confess I have a real soft spot for Milla Jovovitch and for female action stars in general.

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#1.9 - Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:08 PM EDT
{"commentId":2642966,"authorDomain":"Andimia"}
I confess I have a real soft spot for Milla Jovovitch and for female action stars in general.

Me too! I doubt in the same way though.

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    #1.10 - Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:25 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2647205,"authorDomain":"chasing"}

    I love Milla - hell I even liked her first album - but Ultraviolet just bored me to tears, unfortunately =( I wanted to like it... but just couldn't. But at least I tried?

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    #1.11 - Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:11 PM EDT
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    {"commentId":2615771,"authorDomain":"EnSoi"}

    Andimia, you must see Gattaca. It's a wonderful movie. I personally would like to see the great Godzilla: King of Monsters on the list. It's classic and a really interesting look at history and the folly of man vs science (oh, the metaphor in a rubber suit!). I suppose critics see it as silly and/or not sci-fi, but I love it.

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    • 6 votes
    Reply#2 - Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:51 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2618116,"authorDomain":"acidreflux"}

    The original Gojira which is finally available in this country, sans Raymond Burr, is a very moving flick, right up there with the original King Kong.

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    • 2 votes
    #2.1 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:54 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2618165,"authorDomain":"EnSoi"}

    I agree wholeheartedly. I figured the US version would be more easily recognized. I recommend Gojira over King of Monsters for sure. Nice call AdipicAcid.

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    #2.2 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:04 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2619841,"authorDomain":"Andimia"}

    I always thought Gammera the invincible was pretty awesome.

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    #2.3 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:10 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2620390,"authorDomain":"acidreflux"}

    If you want to see the director of Gojira do something interesting, try renting Matango. The special effects are rather laughable, but the movie is just plain creepy. It's based on a William Hope Hodgson short story, as well. Honda could be a pretty serviceable director. Not nearly as good as his good friend Kurosawa, but the fact that they were lifelong friends and colleagues does say something, I think. He kind of got pigeonholed on the cheap scifi spectaculars, but when allowed a little freedom could do some very interesting pictures.

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    #2.4 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:59 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2622855,"authorDomain":"EnSoi"}

    Cool adipic, I'll hop on Matango. My son is a huge monster film fan, so I think he'll enjoy this too.

    Andimia, Gammera is a great film. My oldest watches that at least once a week. Gammera and Gigan, from Godzilla, are his two favorite monsters.

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    #2.5 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:13 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2622944,"authorDomain":"acidreflux"}

    Just realize there are no giant monsters in Matango. It's far more of a commentary on modern (in)humanity.

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    #2.6 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:20 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2624413,"authorDomain":"ProgrammerDude"}
    Andimia, you must see Gattaca.

    With all the Japanese Monster flick talk that followed, I didn't want this comment to be lost. Gattaca is an outstanding modern SF flick!

    It's very much what SF is best at: take a current technology, extend it logically, do a story about the result.

    As for the Japanese Monster flicks, certainly not silly in a bad way. Whether you consider them SF, to me, seems based on how hard core your are in movie classification. A lot of people lump anything not currently real under SF. Others break SF down into Vampires, Zombies, Monsters, Space Opera, etc.

    I tend to be more of a lumper-with-sub-categories. :-)

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    #2.7 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:10 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2625553,"authorDomain":"EnSoi"}
    Just realize there are no giant monsters in Matango. It's far more of a commentary on modern (in)humanity

    Thanks, I'll definitely keep that in mind now that you've mentioned it. I'll check it out first before I watch it with the kids.

    Gattaca is an outstanding modern SF flick!

    You're absolutely right Chris. I think Gattaca is not only a genuine sci-fi film, but a great film all around. If anyone hasn't read it, check out the outstanding article Chris wrote on the subject of sci-fi here

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    #2.8 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:45 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2756302,"authorDomain":"Andimia"}
    Andimia, you must see Gattaca.

    I downloaded and finally watched it. Awesome movie!! How the hell did I live this long without seeing it? I rate it at a Sweet++ on the Tigerblade movie rating scale.

    Uma Thurman is all hardcore sexy.

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    • 5 votes
    #2.9 - Thu Sep 4, 2008 1:28 PM EDT
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    {"commentId":2615858,"authorDomain":"NeoRandian"}

    Really Aeon Flux at #2?!? That movie was terrible. I agree about Tron, but there were some questionable movies on that list.

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    • 1 vote
    Reply#3 - Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:59 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2618262,"authorDomain":"joegrind"}

    Haha yeah that one shocked me too. Aeon Flux is terrible in all it's forms.

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      #3.1 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:23 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2621734,"authorDomain":"tcervo"}

      I liked the original animated Aeon Flux, but the live action move was HORRIBLE.

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      #3.2 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:44 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2622929,"authorDomain":"jfrank"}

      Yeah, Aeon Flux was really bad. Though I like Charlize Theron, especially with that hair cut.

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      #3.3 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:19 PM EDT
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      {"commentId":2616212,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

      I haven't seen a lot of those, but Primer is a great movie.

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      • 6 votes
      Reply#4 - Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:35 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2616386,"authorDomain":"fallenmitten"}

      Primer took me a few days to figure out and I'm not sure I truly did.

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      • 6 votes
      #4.1 - Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:53 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2617196,"authorDomain":"schwab"}

      Primer is incredible. I've seen it 5 times or so and still am not sure exactly what happens.

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      • 4 votes
      #4.2 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2618761,"authorDomain":"tigerblade"}

      Primer is one of those movies you finish and think, "that was pretty good but I have absolutely NO idea what just happened."

      It doesn't matter how many times you see it, that's still the result.

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      • 3 votes
      #4.3 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:29 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2620645,"authorDomain":"fredegrar"}

      I just watched it for the first time last night. I rented it a week or so ago after seeing it recommended on another thread and then was reminded to actually sit down and watch it by this thread. Really enjoyed it. I was following along just fine until they said something about putting one of their 'coffins' inside another. My mind was pretty much blown after that. Has to be the best ultra-low budget movie I've ever seen...

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      • 1 vote
      #4.4 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:20 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2624852,"authorDomain":"z-a-smartamerican"}

      I think that is what makes Sci-Fi fun, you are sometimes left guessing. I'm going to try to get one of those on the list. I liked League of Extradinary Gentlemen.

      Thanks.

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      • 2 votes
      #4.5 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:45 PM EDT
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      {"commentId":2616483,"authorDomain":"UDbmas"}

      Blade Runner. And I agree that Tron was awesome.

      As to "Why Sci-Fi?" This genre is under-rated, probably because much of it occurs in a post-political universe which doesn't always reflect the pessimistic reality many of us "grown-ups" assume once we are released into the wilds of society. It takes the same leap of faith to appreciate Sci-Fi which enabled us to believe in those fairy-tales of our childhood, and as adults we often don't want to admit we still like fairy tales. But we have to remember that Sci-Fi has driven real science. Michio Kaku gives Sci-Fi kudos in his recent book. So I give Sci-fi 2 thumbs up (and a gold-star for imagination).

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      • 3 votes
      Reply#5 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:03 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2617628,"authorDomain":"tombombadil"}

      Is Blade Runner actually "underrated," though? I believe it is one of the greatest sci-fi movies ever ... one of the greatest movies ever. But I thought it was considered a true classic already by many sci-fi fans. Harrison Ford, Ridley Scott, Darryl Hannah, Rutger Hauer ... how could it miss? Great film, regardless.

      My choice for an excellent, but underrated sci-fi film would be Outland from 1981, Directed by Peter Hyams and starring Sean Connery and Peter Boyle. It's visually arresting, and plays out sort of like High Noon in space, with a bit of Die Hard (which came later) in it as well.

      Policeman Marshal William T. O' Niel has been transferred to the mining outpost located on Io, one of Jupiter's moons. And O' Neil is about to have the worst time of his life at the mining outpost, when he is assigned to investigate the violent deaths of miners, only to discover the miners have died of drug overdoses from a lethal drug. As O' Niel sets out to find the drug dealers, he finds himself the target of hired assassins, whom have been hired to assassinate O' Niel. With no help from the Police Force, O' Niel sets out to stand against the drug dealers, as he begins to suspect the outpost's corrupt administrator Sheppard may be involved with the drug dealers. Written by Daniel Williamson
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      • 5 votes
      #5.1 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:56 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2617703,"authorDomain":"wallacestevens"}
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      {"commentId":2619887,"authorDomain":"Andimia"}

      How could I forget Outland? Connery is so badass.

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      • 6 votes
      #5.4 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:14 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2621757,"authorDomain":"tcervo"}
      Is Blade Runner actually "underrated," though? I believe it is one of the greatest sci-fi movies ever ... one of the greatest movies ever.

      Totally agree. Blade Runner is at or near the top of pretty much every "Best Sci-Fi Movies of All Time" list I've ever seen. Nowhere near underrated. Widely considered a classic.

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      • 4 votes
      #5.5 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:45 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2642850,"authorDomain":"UDbmas"}

      Points well taken. I may have misunderstood the premise. I am not arguing that WE underrate Blade Runner, but we are the choir. I was aiming my thoughts at those who like to poo-poo Sci-fi and Epic Fantasy films and underrate anything that is based in imagination rather than reality. I apologize for misreading. Attribute it to half a century of feeling defensive about my preference for the genre. Cheers, good people.

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      • 2 votes
      #5.6 - Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:22 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2654340,"authorDomain":"tombombadil"}

      Cheers to you, UD! I think Sci-Fi is getting more and more respect in the general culture, thanks to people like yourself who have kept faith.

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      #5.7 - Sat Aug 30, 2008 12:29 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2671836,"authorDomain":"ProgrammerDude"}
      This genre is under-rated, probably because much of it occurs in a post-political universe which doesn't always reflect the pessimistic reality many of us "grown-ups" assume once we are released into the wilds of society.

      The irony is that so much of the best SF revels in the political aspects of society; Dr. Strangelove is one obvious example. Others include 1984, Brave New World, THX-1138, etc.

      George Lucas earned a permanent place in history for making SF films mainstream, but it's unfortunate that so many view SF as "long, long ago in a galaxy far, far away."

      That opening is semantically identical to, "Once upon a time."

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      #5.8 - Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:11 PM EDT
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      {"commentId":2616746,"authorDomain":"kidkilowatt"}

      Until the End of the World is an overlooked classic. And it sports one hell of a soundtrack.

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      Reply#6 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:39 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2617632,"authorDomain":"tombombadil"}

      Yep, I have that CD, but never saw the movie. Great music ... I need to see the film. Wasn't that Wem Winders?

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      #6.1 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:57 AM EDT
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      {"commentId":2616751,"authorDomain":"belarius"}

      When I saw the headline, my first though was "I bet they don't even mention Enemy Mine. So imagine my surprise and delight!

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      • 5 votes
      Reply#7 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:39 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2617082,"authorDomain":"alkimija"}

      Quite a few on this list made my most hated list, especially Sleeper. But then again I'm of the opinion that most Woody Allen movies, and probably Woody Allen himself, should probably be burned for the sake of our collective sanity and good taste.

      I love that they mentioned Primer, A Boy and his Dog, and Gattaca. All interesting and watchable.

      One little-known Sci-Fi flick that I stumbled upon (in some small town movie theatre, name of town forgotten, while driving from one end of the province to the other) was Screamers.

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      Reply#8 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:39 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2617480,"authorDomain":"belarius"}

      I also liked Screamers: not especially deep, but worked really well as a sci-fi thriller. Think The Thing meets Aliens.

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      #8.1 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:06 AM EDT
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      {"commentId":2617149,"authorDomain":"enigmaobscura"}

      THX-1138. But that's borderline underrated. I nominate Dune -- underrated and widely disliked!

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      Reply#9 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:51 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2617483,"authorDomain":"belarius"}
      I nominate Dune -- underrated and widely disliked!

      Seconded, provided we're talking about the long cut of the film ;-)

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      • 3 votes
      #9.1 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:07 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2617595,"authorDomain":"adventurebooks"}

      Yeah, THX1138 is no longer underrated, although early on it was, before Lucas became a superstar director. Now, sci-fi clubs rent moviehouses occasionally and go watch it.

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      #9.2 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:40 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2624447,"authorDomain":"ProgrammerDude"}
      I nominate Dune -- underrated and widely disliked!

      Rightfully so, IMO. :-)

      (We're talking the David Lynch one, right? Not the SF channel one (which wasn't bad).)

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      #9.3 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:14 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2628197,"authorDomain":"enigmaobscura"}

      David Lynch version, absolutely. I really liked that the mini-series tried to stay closer to the text; however, Lynch's vision of Dune is an absolute masterpiece.

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      #9.4 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:20 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2628724,"authorDomain":"fdbryant3"}

      Actually I think the Sci-fi version is the better of the two, but then again I also think they are both a bit dull.

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      #9.5 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:39 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2632082,"authorDomain":"acidreflux"}
      Lynch's vision of Dune is an absolute masterpiece.

      In the same sense that a dog's vomit after eating its own crap is a "masterpiece." Neither adaptation of Dune is any good, as a book with as much internal monologue as it has is nearly impossible to film. It would be something like trying to film The Sound and the Fury: no matter how good the director and writer, the resulting picture is still going to be horrid.

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      #9.6 - Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:39 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2642785,"authorDomain":"ProgrammerDude"}
      Lynch's vision of Dune is an absolute masterpiece.

      I couldn't disagree more. I thought it was a very unfortunate adaptation of one of Science Fiction's true classic works. Dune is a hugely challenging work to try to film, and in my opinion Lynch failed miserably. (FWIW, Rotten Tomotoes gives it a 63% rating.)

      As just one example, Lynch's Baron Harkonnen is a physically a grotesque monster. The "real" Hardonnen was opulent in his decadence. Evil = Ugly is first level interpretation which any hack can achive. Understanding that Evil is incredibly attractive is the mark of master storytelling.

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      #9.7 - Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:20 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2647256,"authorDomain":"chasing"}

      I'm in the "love it" category where Lynch's Dune is concerned - but I view it as a separate thing from the book - a reimagining, if you will - and on that level it's a very well crafted, beautiful, stylized movie, with good acting. I'm not a Dune purist and while I liked the book(s) well enough they're still just, well, average (IMHO), I never did get the cult that arose around them. So I didn't feel the insult or whatever that fans of the books felt. I just accepted it as a movie, and nothing more. And on that score it was a spectacle, especially for its age - reminds me of "Excalibur" in that way. Has a timeless quality.

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      #9.8 - Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:13 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2647405,"authorDomain":"Wheel"}

      I liked the Sci Fi channel version of Dune better than the other one. Personally, and I know you'll all hate me, I was not happy with the LOTR treatment. There were parts of it that were very good, but that just made the parts that weren't even more unbearable. I've never really been happy with the movie version of any book I've ever read.

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      • 1 vote
      #9.9 - Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:22 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2648197,"authorDomain":"fdbryant3"}
      I liked the Sci Fi channel version of Dune better than the other one. Personally, and I know you'll all hate me, I was not happy with the LOTR treatment. There were parts of it that were very good, but that just made the parts that weren't even more unbearable. I've never really been happy with the movie version of any book I've ever read.

      The trick in my opinion is accepting that different mediums tell stories differently. A book and movie may tell the same story but the details are going to be different.

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      • 2 votes
      #9.10 - Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:07 PM EDT
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      {"commentId":2617404,"authorDomain":"eriqalan"}

      Dark Star

      Galaxina

      And I agree with Aeon Flux - the story is easily as good as the others here

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      • 1 vote
      Reply#10 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:49 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2628275,"authorDomain":"enigmaobscura"}

      Yeah, but the remake of Aeon Flux didn't tell half the story the original animated series did. Of course it had a hot chick in black leather (?) -- but that's not what this list is about. ;)

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        #10.1 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:22 PM EDT
        {"commentId":2629617,"authorDomain":"jimdent"}

        Dark Star would be on my top ten also.

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        • 3 votes
        #10.2 - Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:16 AM EDT
        {"commentId":2630176,"authorDomain":"jimdent"}

        I would also add The Last Starfighter to the list. Early eighties computer graphics that were phenomenal.

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        • 5 votes
        #10.3 - Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:45 AM EDT
        {"commentId":2631056,"authorDomain":"tombombadil"}

        I loved Last Starfighter! I had forgotten that one...thanks for reminding me.

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        • 3 votes
        #10.4 - Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:52 AM EDT
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        {"commentId":2617957,"authorDomain":"snwod"}

        Where's The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension?

        I did like this list though. Haven't seen a couple of the ones on the list, but the ones I have seen are definitely good, underrated movies.

        Great seed, Andmia.

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        • 7 votes
        Reply#11 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:09 AM EDT
        {"commentId":2619859,"authorDomain":"EnSoi"}
        he Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension?

        OMG!! I totally forgot about that movie. Renting it on netflix now! Sweet! good call snwodttam

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        • 3 votes
        #11.1 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:11 AM EDT
        {"commentId":2620002,"authorDomain":"tappymcwidestance"}
        Where's The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension?

        "I don't care if you did drive through a mountain in Nevada. This is New Jersey and you guys better rock."

        "Why is that watermelon there?"

        "Remember, no matter where you go... there you are."

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        • 2 votes
        #11.2 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:23 AM EDT
        {"commentId":2621505,"authorDomain":"EnSoi"}

        ha! just found a copy of buckaroo at blockbuster vid for $7.99. rockin' it jersey-style tonight :-)

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        • 2 votes
        #11.3 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:25 PM EDT
        {"commentId":2622747,"authorDomain":"darkside"}

        Oh man Buckaroo Bonzai...what a great movie!

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        • 3 votes
        #11.4 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:06 PM EDT
        {"commentId":2630999,"authorDomain":"eriqalan"}

        I have had this in VHS for years and recently found the DVD at store - this is one of those you just keep a copy around to see again and again - it is soooo funny! Red lecdroids, black elecdroids; is there anybody who didn't get that one?

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        • 1 vote
        #11.5 - Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:46 AM EDT
        {"commentId":2673346,"authorDomain":"walterego68"}

        "Can we really trust him? The man drove through solid matter, for Christ's sake!"

        Buckaroo Banzai rocks!

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        • 3 votes
        #11.6 - Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:36 PM EDT
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        {"commentId":2618023,"authorDomain":"blahmni"}

        I've always thought The Cell was underrated. Great effects and a disturbing performance by Vincent D'Onofrio.

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        • 3 votes
        Reply#12 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:31 AM EDT
        {"commentId":2618271,"authorDomain":"joegrind"}

        What about Serenity?

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        • 6 votes
        Reply#13 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:24 AM EDT
        {"commentId":2619917,"authorDomain":"Andimia"}

        I agree, it is vastly underrated though I have always preferred Firefly.

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        • 3 votes
        #13.1 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:17 AM EDT
        {"commentId":2621772,"authorDomain":"tcervo"}

        Good call. Very underrated, and very good.

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        • 3 votes
        #13.2 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:46 PM EDT
        {"commentId":2622123,"authorDomain":"tigerblade"}

        Serenity (and Firefly with it) is one of those movies in a grey area. There's a group of people who think it's one of the greatest movies ever (I'm in that group), and there's a group of people who think "What's Serenity?"

        Not sure quite how to categorize it, though.

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        • 3 votes
        #13.3 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:17 PM EDT
        {"commentId":2622659,"authorDomain":"tcervo"}
        and there's a group of people who think "What's Serenity?"

        Hence the underrated tag. It was a blip on the radar, not in theaters long enough for most people to notice, and if you weren't already a Firefly fan, you probably had no idea it even existed. Show it to the uninitiated, though, and many of them will come away impressed.

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        • 4 votes
        #13.4 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:59 PM EDT
        {"commentId":2631028,"authorDomain":"eriqalan"}

        another DVD I got as soon as it came out; watched firefly - the whole series and had to have it

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        • 1 vote
        #13.5 - Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:50 AM EDT
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        {"commentId":2618779,"authorDomain":"tigerblade"}

        The only ones on this list I haven't seen are Sleeper, A Boy and His Dog, and the '93 version of Body Snatchers (I have seen the Donald Sutherland one, and I've sen the Nicole Kidman "Invasion" one).

        eXistenZ was awful. Not under-rated, just awful. Sort of a Matrix-idea (as the article says), though I won't say it was a rip-off because it was released the same year (1999). Just plain bad.

        I don't know if Aeon Flux deserves to be on this list - it was decent but not really so good I'd call it under-rated.

        As I mentioned in one of my articles, Silent Running was one of my least favorite movies ever (I give it a Grr-, the lowest rating possible), but apparently not everyone agrees with that assessment.

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        • 3 votes
        Reply#14 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:31 AM EDT
        {"commentId":2624524,"authorDomain":"ProgrammerDude"}

        Heh, heh, Haiku.

        One thing becomes clear.
        tigerblade and I diverge;
        on SF movies.

        We seem to be on opposite sides when it comes to a number of SF films. :-)

        I thought eXistenZ was okay and I was delighted to see Silent Running called out in the list, as it's an old friend.

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        • 2 votes
        #14.1 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:21 PM EDT
        {"commentId":2625581,"authorDomain":"EnSoi"}

        Oh, you posted your link. Well, now it's on here twice :-)

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        • 1 vote
        #14.2 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:48 PM EDT
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        {"commentId":2619306,"authorDomain":"mysticchick"}

        I *loved* Gattaca and Existenz. Tron deserves to be on the list for sure.

        I've seen 90% of those movies. I'll take sci-fi over love sagas any day. :-)

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        • 4 votes
        Reply#15 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:22 AM EDT
        {"commentId":2628388,"authorDomain":"enigmaobscura"}

        Abby,
        If you liked eXistenZ, check out Videodrome, also by Cronenberg. Odd, creepy and questionably underrated scifi. In fact, now that I think about it, he also did Dead Ringers, which was *really* creepy, unsettling as I recall.

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        • 2 votes
        #15.1 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:26 PM EDT
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        {"commentId":2619319,"authorDomain":"divbyzero"}

        I've seen all but 2 movies in the list, Primer and xXistenZ so I suppose I have some sci-fi cred. I remember seeing Tron as a kid with my cousins and I can't wait for the new movie so I can take my son to see it. He's already turning into a little sci-fi fan himself. In his preschool they had to list what they wanted to do. The other kids listed "play outside" or "play with my puppy" and things like that. My son said "fly a rocket ship."

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        • 5 votes
        Reply#16 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:24 AM EDT
        {"commentId":2619417,"authorDomain":"kharlowe"}

        I think Zardoz deserves more respect than it gets.
        It was done in 1974 by John Boorman, and featured a post James Bond Sean Connery running around in a loin cloth.
        It was done in Boorman's typically brash, colorful style, which made it a visual delight, but more importantly, it was a cinematic version of Vonnegut's story, Harrison Bergeron in that it pre saged the world we have. One in which the gap between the haves and have nots has widened to the point that the elite are immortal, and everyone else is dead; and the immortals are so bored with it they want to die but can't.

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        • 5 votes
        Reply#17 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:32 AM EDT
        {"commentId":2620617,"authorDomain":"mysticchick"}

        I loved Zardoz! That was a great movie.

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        • 5 votes
        #17.1 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:18 PM EDT
        {"commentId":2624596,"authorDomain":"ProgrammerDude"}

        Zardoz isn't just one of my favorite SF movies....It's one of my favorite movies, period! Such a great example of British low-tech/high-tech!

        (I disagree with characterizing it as a telling of Harrison Bergeron, though. Vonnegut's story is much more about handicapping ourselves in the name of political correctness and an incredibly overexaggerated sense of "fairness".)

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        • 3 votes
        #17.2 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:26 PM EDT
        {"commentId":2633173,"authorDomain":"kharlowe"}

        Chris:

        What I meant by the reference to Harrison Bergeron is this: remember there was a group of people who didn't wear the helmets, whose intellect wasn't impaired? They were an elite that actually ran the world. Vonnegut was simultaneously condemning the masses for embracing gleefully their oppression, as well as the elite for oppressing them. He was both aghast at both the sheep like stupidity that has become acceptable and those who actually assert it's virtue--the pc clowns; the educators who embraced self esteem above intellect.

        Zardoz took this to it's logical conclusion. What happens to that elite when they have suppressed everyone else? They take over. No more need for the lackeys; so, they're wiped out, and with the virtually unlimited power now freely available to the mandarins, they make themselves immortal. Forgetting, as this film points out, that they are ultimately only human, and being immortal is boring because it flattens the moral universe; nothing matters anymore, boredom is metastatic, death becomes a sweet release from insufferable ennui.

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        • 2 votes
        #17.3 - Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:18 AM EDT
        {"commentId":2651231,"authorDomain":"ProgrammerDude"}

        Yeah, okay, I see what you're getting at, but I think it's a stretch and I can't say I agree. One can certainly find the correlation you've detailed, but I think the themes of the two stories are very different.

        But then different points of view are what make life interesting, yes?

        (I don't want this thread to go too off-topic about Zardoz. If you're hungry for more back and forth on this, you could write up an article detailing your view, and then we can debate it there. Or... Zardoz is one of my favorite movies ever, and eventually I will write my own article about it. If you can wait that long, we can debate it there, too. (And I need to re-read Harrison Bergeron in order to really discuss it intelligently.))

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        • 1 vote
        #17.4 - Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:19 PM EDT
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        {"commentId":2619421,"authorDomain":"moomoosdad"}

        It's a pretty good list. Many of my favorite's are on it. I saw Silent Running at the movies on the "big screen" when I was a kid. It was a mind-blowing experience as a kid. I also nominate "Dark Star". I saw it at the movies when I was like ten and I still remember the guy riding off into space at the end of the movie on a piece of metal like it was a surfboard. Enemy Mine is a great flick too and I was just trying to get someone to watch Gattaca yesterday. It's one of my favorite movies ever!

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        • 3 votes
        Reply#18 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:33 AM EDT
        {"commentId":2620366,"authorDomain":"fdbryant3"}

        I'll throw up Equilibrium as an underrated film. It really got overshadowed out of existence because of Matrix.

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        • 7 votes
        Reply#19 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:57 AM EDT
        {"commentId":2622153,"authorDomain":"tigerblade"}

        It's because of that movie that I can't pronounce it with a long 'e' (as in "equal") but have to pronounce it with a short 'e' (as in "extra").

        Fantastic movie, and I agree it's probably very underrated. Not many people have heard of it.

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          #19.1 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:19 PM EDT
          {"commentId":2624990,"authorDomain":"fdbryant3"}

          Another one I'll put up is They Live.

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          • 4 votes
          #19.2 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:55 PM EDT
          {"commentId":2625045,"authorDomain":"moomoosdad"}
          Another one I'll put up is They Live.

          This movie rocks! I love the fight scene when Rowdy Roddy Piper is trying to get his friend to put on the glasses that let you see the aliens. Classic!

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          • 4 votes
          #19.3 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:59 PM EDT
          {"commentId":2625292,"authorDomain":"Andimia"}

          oh how could I forget this one!? They Live is one fun B movie ride.

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          • 4 votes
          #19.4 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:21 PM EDT
          {"commentId":2627185,"authorDomain":"chasing"}

          Equilibrium was damn good.

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          • 1 vote
          #19.5 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:42 PM EDT
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          {"commentId":2621960,"authorDomain":"moomoosdad"}

          Does anydoy rember "Logan's Run"? I absolutely loved that movie when I was a kid. I bought a copy of it and watched it with my wife a few years ago. I still enjoyed it, but she said it was way too dated for her. (She's ten years younger than me.)

          Oh yeah, and also one of my favorites was "Westworld" with Yul Brynner. Man that was a badass movie!

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          • 6 votes
          Reply#20 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:02 PM EDT
          {"commentId":2622160,"authorDomain":"tigerblade"}

          Logan's Run is in my Netflix queue... should I bump it up the list some?

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          • 5 votes
          #20.1 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:19 PM EDT
          {"commentId":2622394,"authorDomain":"moomoosdad"}

          It's one of my personal favorites, but I have a warped sense of reality so "bump with caution". LOL I was made into a short-lived TV series in the late 70's but it didn't last long. (I loved it too! It had Gregory Harrison as Logan and Heather Menzies as Jessica 6)

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          • 4 votes
          #20.2 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:37 PM EDT
          {"commentId":2622689,"authorDomain":"tcervo"}

          Logan's Run is one of my all-time favorites. Mainly because it was on The Movie Channel back in the day when I was growing up so I got to see it several times as a youngster. It's a bit cheesy in parts, but I think it holds up pretty well overall. I have it on DVD...

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          • 7 votes
          #20.3 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:01 PM EDT
          {"commentId":2624685,"authorDomain":"ProgrammerDude"}

          I also have Logan's Run on DVD (spotted it in a $5 bin!).

          I would agree. For being as dated as it is, it holds up well. Perhaps because it's a movie about something, and the underlying truths hold true today. (And then there's the simple fact it has Jennifer Agutter in it. :-)

          Logan's Run, Silent Running and Soylent Green would make a good drive in triple bill! We were heavy on SF message movies in the 70s, weren't we!

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          • 4 votes
          #20.4 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:33 PM EDT
          {"commentId":2624757,"authorDomain":"moomoosdad"}
          Logan's Run, Silent Running and Soylent Green would make a good drive in triple bill! We were heavy on SF message movies in the 70s, weren't we!

          Do you remember the old Doc Savage movies? My dad used to take us to the drive in every time one of them would come around. I loved them as a kid but I haven't seen any mention of them since then. I know it's not really SF but I just wondered if anybody else had seen them?

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          • 2 votes
          #20.5 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:38 PM EDT
          {"commentId":2629001,"authorDomain":"enigmaobscura"}

          Great flicks -- no doubt -- but I would not rate Logan's Run nor Soylent Green underrated; they're on most SciFi's Greatest type lists I've come across. Another one which was good, but again questionably underrated, is Westworld. For some reason, thinking about Logan's Run triggers thoughts about Westworld for me; and vice-versa.

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            #20.6 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:49 PM EDT
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            {"commentId":2622575,"authorDomain":"fredegrar"}

            Logan's Run freaked me out a little during my impressionable youth. Planted a deep-seated fear of turning 30, for sure. (or was 25 the cutoff - I can't remember).

            (sorry meant to reply to #20)

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            • 5 votes
            Reply#21 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:52 PM EDT
            {"commentId":2624865,"authorDomain":"ProgrammerDude"}

            Fun list! WAY better than the Yahoo Top 10 SF Films list we were discussing elsewhere!

            The only one I might quibble over is Body Snatchers, just because it's in such a different vein than the others.

            True SF Geek confession: I own half of them. ;-\

            Easy enough to come up with the second ten (many have been mentioned already):

            1. Barbarella
            2. Dark City
            3. Dark Star
            4. Fantastic Voyage
            5. Fifth Element
            6. The Island
            7. Outland
            8. Renaissance
            9. Smilla's Sense of Snow
            10. Zardoz

            Honorable mention to Earth Girls Are Easy and My Step-Mother Is An Alien. Two fun and fun-sexy SF movies.

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            • 3 votes
            Reply#22 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:46 PM EDT
            {"commentId":2624962,"authorDomain":"moomoosdad"}

            Oooooooh YEAH! I had forgotten all about Fantastic Voyage! What a great movie and Raquel Welch in a skin tight suit for the whole movie too! ( ;

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            • 4 votes
            #22.1 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:53 PM EDT
            {"commentId":2629041,"authorDomain":"enigmaobscura"}

            Dark City -- excellent! That's a great movie and I'd certainly say underrated. Nice!

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            • 1 vote
            #22.2 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:51 PM EDT
            {"commentId":2629182,"authorDomain":"chasing"}

            Dark City is easily one of my favorite films of all time.

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            • 2 votes
            #22.3 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:56 PM EDT
            {"commentId":2644191,"authorDomain":"ProgrammerDude"}

            Here's some more candidates:

            All certainly are tops on someone's list (Galaxy Quest is in my Top 20 Modern)....do they qualify for ours here?

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            • 2 votes
            #22.4 - Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:04 PM EDT
            {"commentId":2645249,"authorDomain":"moomoosdad"}

            Sphere was great, very underrated, but are you kidding me with The Ghosts of Mars? Ugh, horrible movie IMO!

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            • 4 votes
            #22.5 - Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:47 PM EDT
            {"commentId":2645675,"authorDomain":"ProgrammerDude"}

            Natasha Henstridge, Ice Cube, Jason Statham, Pam Grier, Clea DuVall, Joanna Cassidy,... what's not to like!

            [shrug] I though it was an interesting take on "Zombies gonna kill you all" by John Carpenter, whose interesting take on "Vampires gonna kill you all" I also enjoyed.

            The trick with movies like this is you just have to know where to set the bar! :-)

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            • 3 votes
            #22.6 - Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:05 PM EDT
            {"commentId":2648221,"authorDomain":"fdbryant3"}

            Heh - your a brave man to put Waterworld up there. Although to be honest I liked it.

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            • 3 votes
            #22.7 - Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:08 PM EDT
            {"commentId":2651297,"authorDomain":"ProgrammerDude"}

            Well, so did I! It has so many fun references, and Dennis Hopper's over the top villain on the Valdez.

            But I knew it was a risk even mentioning it. It's a movie people love to hate!

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            • 1 vote
            #22.8 - Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:22 PM EDT
            {"commentId":2652940,"authorDomain":"darkside"}

            I have a soft spot for Post Apocalyptic Kevin Costner movies.

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            • 2 votes
            #22.9 - Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:42 PM EDT
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            {"commentId":2625072,"authorDomain":"jackson-kittilea"}

            Blade Runner and Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome (can we count that one?)

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            • 2 votes
            Reply#23 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:01 PM EDT
            {"commentId":2625245,"authorDomain":"Zoilus"}

            The only one I disagree with is "Enemy Mine". I saw it as a "Robinson Crusoe on Mars" meets "Buck Rogers" rip-off. I'd replace it with 'Dark City" but I don't know if it's underrated. I sure haven't.

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            Reply#24 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:16 PM EDT
            {"commentId":2625525,"authorDomain":"Wheel"}

            Brazil yes.

            Enemy Mine no.

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            Reply#25 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:43 PM EDT
            {"commentId":2625618,"authorDomain":"ProgrammerDude"}

            Ooh, yes, good one! Brazil definitely deserves to be on that list. (If you didn't know Robert De Niro had a small role, would you even recognize him?)

            Long as we're talking Gilliam, 12 Monkeys should probably also be on the list.

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            #25.1 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:52 PM EDT
            {"commentId":2627641,"authorDomain":"snwod"}

            Again, though, the movies you've mentioned aren't necessarily underrated. 12 Monkeys and Brazil can often be found on great sci-fi lists. (They're on mine, for sure!) But, this is the internet. So we could argue and argue forever about this. :) Another one that might or might-not be underrated would be Solaris. Either one. Not sure what the critical consensus is on those is.

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            #25.2 - Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:35 PM EDT
            {"commentId":2643352,"authorDomain":"ProgrammerDude"}

            Yeah, good point, snwodttam...

            Do we mean underrated among SF fans or just underrated as SF movies?

            That Yahoo Top 30 Rated films gives us one standard from the general movie-going audience. You can see them all listed together in my comment in that seed. In that vine, John Whittet gave us a link to a "much better list". (It is better, but still has Starship Troopers and SW I-III on it. :-)

            In any event, I'd agree that most SF fans rate 12 Monkeys and Brazil very highly! Solaris, too, is generally highly regarded by SF fans, but not so much by the Ironman/Star Wars sort of fans.

            All that said, I think my leaning here is towards "underrated by people who would enjoy an SF film but aren't long-time hard-core fans." Another way to put it might be "not well known by mainstream audiences."

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            #25.3 - Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:37 PM EDT
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